polls from cnbc who do you think won tonight's presidential debate? romney 51%, obama 38%. tell us how an organization like this covers the debate? how many people do we have there? >> 20 would you say? it couldn't be 20. 10 may be. we have reporters and video folks out there. we have one editor, our politics editor of tonight. we have a good core group of people but we have tons and tons of people back here as well. see how many political's does it take to screw in a lightbulb? >> just reading an e-mail that i got from a democrat who is how prepared democrats for debates over the years. obama was on energetic and almost wimpy. he did not engage and cut cleanly beat. missed countless opportunities to question romney's facts and that is someone used to preparing democrats for debate. >> you were asking about the behind-the-scenes conversation and that number number of us were struck that the president didn't use of any of the standard standards of two lines. we talking before the debate, how many times do you think he will hit that 47% line? >> only ones i think. >> did you